Defense Rate

[Raistlin]

Im curious about Defense Rate and Mobs

for one reset i had 1400 agility (999) rate... In worms i NEVER got hit, not even 1 time for a single damage point.

But in Alphas, I would still get hit for like 40 damage ocasionally???? Even weaker mobs than that would still hit me once in a while for nominal damage.

So Why can worms do NOTHING but weaker mobs (a lot weaker) still do damage?

[ozio]

because monsters aren't exactly balanced, they never were.
but i guess they are close enough to balance not to be a big problem

[Sherly]

ok this is what happens. a monster ex. Mega Crust has an amount attk rate which if ur def rate balaneced out you would miss most of the time

in ur case u have 999 rate i and i know that worms atkk rate is approx 1k-1.15k
which means if u get near that amount the rate it would miss alot but if u pass than u will occasionally get hit

[Anakha]

defance sucsess rate never makes u immune to hits fully, best percentage u can get is %97 miss and %3 hit.

[Raistlin]

Honestly, when i had 999 rate worms NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER hit me, not 1 time (i was watching because i couldnt believe it)

At like 900 rate they still did 200+ damage, 950, like 100+, 999, 0+0+0+0+0+0+NEVER

[magtataho7]

LOL i bet u can just shrug off the 40 dmg and say, OMG a MOSQUITO BIT ME and swat it away :D

Whats ur set anyway amigo?

[Khaudus]

Raistlin in right.... you can get 100% misses

[Shrewd]

I guess we all agree that Webzen ain't much of a genius programmer :rotfl:
(agility/speed bug for example)

[Khaudus]

I guess we all agree that Webzen ain't much of a genius programmer :rotfl:
(agility/speed bug for example)

That bug is there because this game wasnt made for such high stats-not even resets...

[Raistlin]

i got Scale gloves+9+28+luck+Rate
Bone Boots+11+28+Luck+Rate+DD
Bone Armor/Pants+11+28+Luck+Rate
2x rate rings
Dark Wings+9+28wiz+Luck
Resu Staff+11+28+ExcDmg+2%inc
Pend+rate
(friend borrowing serpent shield+0+35+mana+rate)

[Azterial]

Honestly, I think it's quite pure luck that you never get his with 999 rate, because even with rate over 2k I was hit by mobs(worms and other misc. crap, but all of this was prior to my 'retirement' from my 'staff' position).

100% dodge (for a lack of a better term for DR) is unachievable, even with 32K agility you *WILL* get hit every millionth of an attempt, however, the fact that the damage done to you went down every time your rate increased has been a "feature" in this game for quite a while now(I remember it from prior to MUGlobal's 1st database exploit).

[OboroSama]

u sed u got 999 rate i got 3600 rate and worms and ac others mob hit me -.-
tts coz with more creatures hitting u more hard is to evade each attack ur rate go falling in places like ds or bc they hit u very easy, and almost all times when they hit is like a minimun dmg is a dmg dont matter ur def go be the same
my acctulay def 1.2k with other set 1.6 and they give me the same dmg -.-

[Raistlin]

Only the worms this phenomenon was working, maybe 999 is just a lucky number=)

[EscaLayer]

we need another player to try this one out

later

[ozio]

if he's so sure about it it might actually be a bug of some sort.
it might stop working once you change your defence rate.

[AmBull]

nice topic guys!

[Zirtox]

nice topic guys!

SPAM :fight: :mad:

back ontopic now

[grilzzz]

3k+ rate still get hit :)

[Raistlin]

yea i get hit now with 1000+ rate, so must have just been bug or something =)

[Azterial]

most likely was just a glitch :| after all, this is MU.

[Legend]

you can only ever have 97% miss 3% hit.

in that 3% if ur rate is better then mobs attack rate its damage dealt on you gets reduced by 80%.

hope it helps =/

[Crunk]

yea raist I know what you mean... the drakans and the rainiers are whiping me while the balrogs aren't. Just shush it up or someone will spend 5 hours balancing everything out and might think it funny to make them stronger... bad idea...