Black Hole Machine

[Torchi0]

I dont like how it sounds


By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Scientists preparing to fire up the world’s largest atom smasher are being flooded with phone calls and emails – even death threats – from people worried that the Large Hadron Collider, when activated, will obliterate planet Earth.
James Gillies, head of public relations at the European scientific consortium called CERN that is building the Collider near Geneva, Switzerland, told the London Telegraph that he gets tearful phone calls from people pleading with the organization not to turn on the machine.
“They phone me and say, ‘I am seriously worried. Please tell me that my children are safe,’” said Gillies.
Some scientists have reported receiving death threats.
“There are a number who say, ‘You are evil and dangerous and you are going to destroy the world,” reports Gillies.
Currently, the world’s largest operational supercollider has a circumference of about four miles and is housed at Fermilab near Batavia, Ill. The new particle accelerator CERN is building, however, is 17 miles around and will have seven times the energy of Fermilab’s Tevatron accelerator.
As WND reported earlier, some scientists have expressed concern that the Collider’s capability of slamming protons together at an unprecedented peak energy of 14 trillion electron volts could create black holes on earth or hypothetical super-atoms called strangelets, either of which, according to some theories, could expand in massive reactions to completely destroy the planet.
WND also reported some of those scientists are suing to delay CERN’s plan to fire up the Collider on Sept. 10, hoping more safety studies will be done before unleashing the Collider’s power.
CERN, an acronym for the European Organization for Nuclear Research, is no stranger to doomsday predictions about its research.
Author Dan Brown, famous for writing “The Da Vinci Code,” wrote another novel called “Angels & Demons,” about antimatter stolen from CERN to build a bomb. The book’s popularity prompted CERN to create a webpage devoted to debunking the rumors stirred by the novel.
Internet conspirators have also pointed out the organization’s logo, constructed from the drawn paths of three supercolliders, resembles the organization’s name surrounded by the numerals 666, a number Bible prophecy assigns to the end-times Antichrist.
Others have whispered that a statue of “the Indian god of destruction” Lord Shiva, given to CERN by Indian dignitaries four years ago and displayed outside the building, is proof that the organization is destined to destroy the world.
CERN officials and scientists, however, assert that fears of dark conspiracies and cataclysmic events following the startup of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) are unfounded.
“The LHC will enable us to study in detail what nature is doing all around us,” said CERN Director General Robert Aymar in a press release. “The LHC is safe, and any suggestion that it might present a risk is pure fiction.”
In 2003, a safety review of the project was completed and reviewed by 20 independent external scientists, then updated again last year.
“The LHC safety review has shown that the LHC is perfectly safe,” said Jos Engelen, CERN’s Chief Scientific Officer, “it points out that nature has already conducted the equivalent of about a hundred thousand LHC experimental programs on Earth – and the planet still exists.”

And Looks Bad too!

[exQuisite]

ughh, why do people on the internet like to over exaggerate and say 'black holes' will be created and getting paranoid over nothing. no offense torchi0, but this title 'black hole machine' is a prime example, i mean making black holes wasnt even the purpose of the lhc =.=

[sprbean]

the black hole problem is more a mumbo jumbo reporter story then an actual problem. If the thread was so big, they wouldn't have built the machine in the first place.

[Demidel]

Theres no way the acelerator makes black hole becouse it realy has nothing to do with
the generation of black holes this is total *ull shit.

[viperosity]

I'm not sure about this one. Hypothetically, if it were to discover the activities and pattens of nature, then why would the scientists continue work on it if nature could possibly cease to exist. Their actions would be contradicting their desires. Before this thread, i had never heard of an LHC. So i'm still skeptical about the whole idea of it entirely.

[Wael90]

Heh, i don't care if that thing can actually create black holes or not but if it can and will create some, i will join the *STS Squad and make them pay. I am still young to pass out cause of someone's stupid brain :P


*STS: Slain The Scientists.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by sprbean

the black hole problem is more a mumbo jumbo reporter story then an actual problem. If the thread was so big, they wouldn't have built the machine in the first place.

Altough, they didnt knew what to except from the tests so...

[Serafi]

Hmm... I've actually been to CERN once and seen the old setup called LEP. It collided electrons and it's antiparticles positrons. It was a huge success! This new LHC will collide protons and/or ions and produces alot more energy. In the old LEP collider the energy released when the two beams collided was of the same order as the energy released when a fly hits your window... The thing about the formation of a black hole is that black home loses it's energy by so called Hawkings radiation i.e. at the event horizon virtual lepton-antilepton pairs will be born. The other lepton falls back into the hole but the other one escapes. This is due to the uncertainty principle arising from quantum mechanics. To conclude the formation of the virtual pair requires energy and that energy is taken from the black hole. So... if there will be black holes born they will die instantly. And... even stars size of our own sun don't produce black holes (instead they usually turn into neutron stars)... how about that energy huh? The thing is that they wont take out the full power at once. Of course they will test it over and over and over... and increase the power slowly. I'm excited to see if they will discover the Higgs boson or/and supersymmetric particles.

Meanwhile, I sit back, relax and play MU.

[SilverStag]

That was alot to say in a post serafi, you just might rival LUCKY someday...call me skeptcial, but i smell plagiarism in there ^^. But back to the matter at hand, what will it hurt if the thing black holes us anyway? So everyone dies, w/e its a hell alot better way kill us all than alot of other things like, mass epidemics for one. Just be an optinist ^^. Call me insensitive but I really couldnt care less whether its safe or not. Imma go get me some Mary Jane now =]]]]]]

[Serafi]

It actually came from my own head since i'm physicist. If a stable black hole was born, it would gather matter so slowly that we wouldn't maybe even notice it... the thing is that we wouldnt notice the black hole without precise measurements since only an outside observer can do that. What I'm saying is that we could still live long constantly "falling" into the black hole... It's not like we die instantly if it is born. I must say this goes far beyond my understanding but I think this is the general idea.