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Old 07-01-2013   #1
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Scientist believes humans could live a thousand years
Idea is not taken seriously by many scientists, but there are others who believe in this possibility.


They are already among us. The first humans to pass the 150-year-old has already been born, researchers and futurists. Are among children and young people today. Now, it seems impossible, but when they become adults, they will have to reach fountains of youth that will soon come out of the labs. Japan, the country with the greatest number of centenarians in the world, wants to further extend the life and health.
To live longer, we have to find diseases before they feel the first symptom. This will be possible soon and we need not even go to the doctor. Our home will tell us if we are sick.
The residence of the future should be like an apartment-model created by the University of Kanazawa. Inside, the person has health monitored all the time while sleeping, at the time going to the bathroom. We can already make 14 medical examinations. Until at bath time, because the tub is an electrocardiogram machine. Just put both hands into the water to get an idea of ​​how the heart is.
The player who makes the traditional method has electrodes, which pick up the electrical variations of the heart. Thus, it is possible to know if it is working well. The physician applies a gel to facilitate conduction of electrical signals.
The tub makes the examination, because it has six electrodes and the water works as a gel used by the doctor. The equipment is also able to identify if the person is drowning and triggers an alarm.
At the time of needs, makes six private examinations. It measures, for example, pressure jet of urine. In the experiment, they use water. For men, explains Professor Kenichi Yamakoshi, a variation in pressure may indicate the onset of prostate cancer.
In the future, private vai analyze the urine, as does a lab today to know, for example, if there is any sign of infection - and will send the results via the Internet to the doctor. And when the occupant sitting on the toilet, a sensor for measuring the leg leaning against, for example, pressure.
Some major tests will be done while we sleep. The bed has sensors that measure heart rate, weight distribution in the body, breath and even snoring.
All these data go to a computer that identifies if there is any variation worrying and tells the doctor, who may be many miles away.
"Living longer with health is the dream of many people," says Professor Yamakoshi, "and all prefer to live without having to go to the doctor. But with advancing age, people tend to get sick more often. When this happens, soon discover is better to heal as quickly as possible. "
And one more advantage. Imagine, a shower, having to leave the house to go to the doctor. It's a problem that your Toshio Shouchi, 80, has more. He is one of eight volunteers who are testing the smart home. He suffers from heart failure and live alone. Two years ago, his vital signs are measured by sensors and it does a query daily, the internet, with a doctor, on call at the hospital. Describes the feeling, shows, for example, blotches that appeared on the arms. On the other hand, it assesses symptoms and test results and whether it should increase or decrease the medication. His Toshio says that without this system, would have to live in a hospital.
"I feel much safer. They even discovered that I was showing signs of a stroke last year and I was sent to hospital for treatment. Was something temporary and fleeting," says Toshio His.
And in the future, healing will come invisibly to the eye. In micromachines Research Center of Tokyo Medical University, gives only with microscopes to see what Professor Koji Ikuta and their students are making.
In the image, a line at the top is a human hair. Below are some points that seem, at first glance, with dust grains. But it's just us closer to the picture they take shape. They are man-made structures. They are the "microrobots" equipment, in a few years may enter the body to cure disease and restore damaged pieces.
To enter the factory these robots, you need to wear a special outfit. Dirt or dust can cause failures in production. Robots are constructed from a single drop of polymer, a chemical similar to liquid plastic.
The manufacturing occurs in the microscope slide, which is coupled to a TV monitor, the only way to see what happens there. A laser-ray beam, which makes the solid polymer. Gradually, the robot takes shape.
Professor Ikuta explained that, first, they design the robot on a computer. "Then, we transfer the data for this system. Automatically, we can create any structure in three dimensions."
A single drop, can be produced or more robots 50. In 4 minutes, are ready. For now, have a very simple way. One, for example, looks like a horseshoe with a pin in the middle, but he already has some skills.
Scientists make the little robot into action inside a dark booth, to prevent interference from external light. The video shows the experience of a little robot pushing the cell from the blood of a chicken, a red blood cell, compared with a microscopic structure, like a wall. It's like he was hitting a tennis ball against a wall.
The robot is driven by a laser beam. By pushing the cell, he can sense her resistance. Professor Ikuta predicts that in five years, this robot will be used in laboratories to study because a cell changes its shape because it becomes cancerous, for example. In 10 years, he believes, the robots could be introduced within our body. Will identify diseased cells and heal them.
"This robot, very tiny, can extend human life safely. And this is the great object of my research," says Professor Ikuta.
To do this will have to be even smaller, will be "nanobots", so small that neither the microscope you can see them. See what scientists think is going to happen within our body in a few years.
An army of nanobots could repair organs or muscles, as if they were workers repairing the walls of a house.
Others work as janitors of our lungs, removing all impurities that can cause diseases.
A robot specialized in combating microbes will identify them and destroy them.
With so many advances in science, that one day we will live forever? Rejuvenate instead of aging? Impossible? Not for a jellyfish, which is being studied in Japan Unless we turn food from another animal or get a disease, it is biologically immortal.
And she performs another ancient dream of humanity: after age, be a child again. Professor Shin Kubota, of Kyoto University, has identified three species of jellyfish of the genus "Turritopsis" that are capable of this feat. Each life cycle lasts on average 2 months. She grows up in the form of jellyfish, we are accustomed to seeing on beaches. It adulthood, when it reproduces and lays eggs.
As they age, she does not die, but performs a unique phenomenon in nature: back to a polyp, is like a tiny tree branch. It is one of the early life stages of jellyfish, while still not able to reproduce. In other words, it's like being a child again.
35 years ago, Professor Shin examines these jellyfish in search of the secret of eternal youth. He explains that she developed this ability to allow the survival of the species. Very small and fragile, they are vulnerable, and serve as food for many animals. The information that can not die by aging was recorded in the genes of jellyfish. But is it possible to transfer this information into the gene for a human being?
The teacher thinks so. "The genes of a jellyfish are not that different," he says.
It seems unbelievable, even crazy, but he assures: "Even in this century, we will become immortal."
The idea is not taken seriously by many scientists, but there are others who believe in this possibility.
One is the British Aubrey de Gray. He has a hippie guy, but is a scientist at Cambridge University and renowned expert on aging. Gray thinks that soon, humans can easily live a thousand years.
He says the medicine will regenerate the human body the same way as we do the regular maintenance of our car or our house. With that, they last much longer than they were designed.
Another prophet of immortality is the inventor and futurist Ray Kurzweil American. He thinks that, in the near future, man will no longer be just flesh and blood. Every part of our body, which does not work well, will be replaced by a machine.
"Within 25 years, when you talk to a human being, like us, will be speaking with a cyborg, a hybrid of machine and biology." Said the scientist Raymond Kurzweil.
Since the early 20th century, humanity wins 3 months of life every year with advances in medicine, new drugs and treatments, and the care with hygiene and nutrition.
They are the ones that allow Kyuzo Andou, 101-year, take every day - Bicycle - customer orders. He owns a specialty coffee shop in Tokyo, which opened for business 85 years, when tired of being used and decided to become boss. He has climbed Mount Fuji - the highest mountain in Japan - 70 times. And he says he intends to keep working and climbing mountains as possible.
"The key is good nutrition, physical and mental exercises. And do not speak ill of others nor be regretting life," he says.
When your Kyuzo was born at the beginning of the last century, would be hard to believe that both could live. Life expectancy in developed countries did not reach 50 years. Today it is over 80. Therefore, it may be possible that within a few decades, as healthy as he centenarians are not exceptions, but people with a long future ahead.
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Well, that'll solve world's overpopulation... NOT

Oh well, maybe we then would be able to travel to other planets and such but still I don't really see myself enjoying life for hundreds of years.
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interesting read tigo i wonder what life would be like if say Einstein had live to see 1000 xD
 
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Not going to happen in my opinion. Not for a LONG time, anyway. And especially not unless the thousand year old subject is forced to live their entire life within laboratory settings which is beyond unethical. Can you imagine living a thousand years inside a box? You wouldn't last a week haha. You can't step outside a perfectly controlled room without the immediate effects of nature wearing your body down. Everywhere you go you subject yourself to pathogens and mutagenic agents. Fun fact: fluorescent light bulbs that you see in most households are enough to cause cancers, they're just much slower in regards to other light, such as the UV rays in sunlight.

This rather poorly written article essentially regurgitates everything we as humans already know. 'Eat healthy, stay fit; live long'. Even the nonsense about the jellyfish has long been known by humans. And even though the article makes it sound as if we are very close to being able to 'reset' our cells/body to become young again, we are in fact, very far away. There is so much work that still needs to be done. Can you imagine resetting every cell in our body at once? Can you imagine what would happen if we reset one part of the body, without resetting the other? Or what would happen if we reset something and the whole thing went wrong? Not to mention that 'resetting' isn't that simple of a task for a cell. The only reason we see it in jellyfish is because they're Cnidarians. They're simple organisms. They only have two true tissue layers, whilst we have three. We are so much more complicated than a jellyfish; you're essentially comparing how to add and subtract two digit numbers, to quantum physics.

Well anyway, that was my 2-cents. I won't rant any longer about this article unless you want me to haha. I'm curious where it came from though. If there's one thing university has taught me, it's be wary of where you collect your sources from.
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Not going to happen in my opinion. Not for a LONG time, anyway. And especially not unless the thousand year old subject is forced to live their entire life within laboratory settings which is beyond unethical. Can you imagine living a thousand years inside a box? You wouldn't last a week haha. You can't step outside a perfectly controlled room without the immediate effects of nature wearing your body down. Everywhere you go you subject yourself to pathogens and mutagenic agents. Fun fact: fluorescent light bulbs that you see in most households are enough to cause cancers, they're just much slower in regards to other light, such as the UV rays in sunlight.

This rather poorly written article essentially regurgitates everything we as humans already know. 'Eat healthy, stay fit; live long'. Even the nonsense about the jellyfish has long been known by humans. And even though the article makes it sound as if we are very close to being able to 'reset' our cells/body to become young again, we are in fact, very far away. There is so much work that still needs to be done. Can you imagine resetting every cell in our body at once? Can you imagine what would happen if we reset one part of the body, without resetting the other? Or what would happen if we reset something and the whole thing went wrong? Not to mention that 'resetting' isn't that simple of a task for a cell. The only reason we see it in jellyfish is because they're Cnidarians. They're simple organisms. They only have two true tissue layers, whilst we have three. We are so much more complicated than a jellyfish; you're essentially comparing how to add and subtract two digit numbers, to quantum physics.

Well anyway, that was my 2-cents. I won't rant any longer about this article unless you want me to haha. I'm curious where it came from though. If there's one thing university has taught me, it's be wary of where you collect your sources from.
1st - It's not my opinion. Font is here: http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/notic...-mil-anos.html

2nd - Go read some more about nano bots, researches are moving fast. They are even considered a cataclism weapon if used in wrong way and hands. This is not the stuff you see in regular TV.

Anyways I'm just sharing and not worth my time with big explanations. Just an extra hint, Scientific American has cool stuff as well...
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1st - It's not my opinion. Font is here: http://g1.globo.com/fantastico/notic...-mil-anos.html

2nd - Go read some more about nano bots, researches are moving fast. They are even considered a cataclism weapon if used in wrong way and hands. This is not the stuff you see in regular TV.

Anyways I'm just sharing and not worth my time with big explanations. Just an extra hint, Scientific American has cool stuff as well...
I hope you didn't think I wrote my last comment maliciously. When I write 'you' I write it to the readers (the audience), and not to the person who started the thread... though I do understand how you may have mistaken it that way, and I apologise if I did lead you to think I was attacking your post.

That aside, yes. Nanotechnology. A rapidly growing branch of technology... that is still relatively 'new'. And it will probably stay, for a very long time, only lightly incorporated into our human bodies. Why? Because we don't know about it. We don't know the long term effects of it. We don't know if prolonged exposure to them may cause severe effects on our body, or disrupt other parts of our body without us knowing. It is unfortunately to say this, but a lot of animals will die before they are ever tested on humans for such purposes. It is even more unfortunate to say that a lot of animals have died already. And if you're using them to 'survive a thousand years', you're going to need nanobots to kill a lot of different diseases, and repair a LOT of different types of cells. We haven't even figured out how to repair nerve cells yet - cells which will most definitely have started degenerating after a century or two. I don't think that nanobots won't be able to solve that dilemma, I just think it's going to take a very long time (not due to just scientific reasons either, but a lot of ethical barriers you've got to overcome. It is pretty gosh darn hard getting ethics approval on the human body... unless you're in a third-world country... but then your main issue is surviving till 80, not 1000).

And then there's also the psychological issue as mentioned by the comments above. Who wants to live for a thousand years? Who wants to see up to 50 generations of family and friends die? You'd go insane... and as soon as the person being experimented on 'opts out' of the experiment, that's it. You can't bring them back in, even if they've been doing it for 500 years, simply because it would be unethical otherwise.

So yeah... That's my thoughts on why I don't think it's going to happen. You'd need to jump a lot of ethical hurdles, and solve a lot of currently unsolved mysteries of the human body before we can even begin to test this kind of thing. I also think it'd be psychologically too much for one person to handle.

Thank you for the article though... I just think they've sugar coated it and added lots of rainbows and unicorns to make it appeal to everyone... which is common in the media lol.
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