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Old 31-08-2008   #1
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OK, here's a very delicate subject to debate on...

Science vs. Religion...


Science says we evolved from microorganisms during millions and millions of years while Religion says we've been created by God...

They can't both be true can they? What's your opinion on this? Do you believe in God or in science... or in both?
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i pick science cos dont be live we stareted with adma and eve cos to be blunt sounds like insisted lol
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Old 31-08-2008   #3
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I just want to state a few things:

1. God is not the opposite of science, because God created everything so also the ability for us to research the world around us.(assuming that God is true of course)
2. Evolution comes in 2 forms. The first form is the form most people know, about the evolution over millions of years with Monkeys to humans etc. etc. most scientists do NOT believe in this theory and Darwin himself (who created this theory) said it was not true. The other evolution theory is on a smaller scale with small organisms evolving...we know for a fact that this is True, it can be shown with actual facts that this is true, but you must remember this is NOT in contradiction with the Bible like a lot of people think.



So I think that God and Science can by combined very good, but that the human kind is too eager to be like God and that we mustn't want to take over his work of creating human kind(cloning) and such. (you may not agree with this but that is just my view on things.)
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Old 31-08-2008   #4
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I definitly say Science, there is no proof God made anything (sorry if that offends anyone) but facts are facts and science is based on facts.
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I am gonna go with science purely because i am an athiest
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I am gonna go with science purely because i am an athiest
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For sure science since over the yrs the more evidence and proof they found against religion....and facts are a lot more convincing
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Ancient, there has never been hard proof that Religion is Not true, because you can't prove God isn't there, altough I can't prove He's there too...That's Why it's a Religion ^^, you have to believe in it.
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Tell me, what are the facts...?
Can you point out to me some facts that prove God does not and can not exist?
Can you prove me that this world was created from a Big Bang and we are the results of millions of years of evolution?

I say that the theory of evolution (as in we evolved from monkeys) is as much a religion as the christian belief.
It has never been proven that it is true, yet millions of people claim it is... I don't really see a difference between that and the christian belief (exept for the fact that they believe something else that is).
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I just want to state a few things:

1. God is not the opposite of science, because God created everything so also the ability for us to research the world around us.(assuming that God is true of course)
2. Evolution comes in 2 forms. The first form is the form most people know, about the evolution over millions of years with Monkeys to humans etc. etc. most scientists do NOT believe in this theory and Darwin himself (who created this theory) said it was not true. The other evolution theory is on a smaller scale with small organisms evolving...we know for a fact that this is True, it can be shown with actual facts that this is true, but you must remember this is NOT in contradiction with the Bible like a lot of people think.



So I think that God and Science can by combined very good, but that the human kind is too eager to be like God and that we mustn't want to take over his work of creating human kind(cloning) and such. (you may not agree with this but that is just my view on things.)
I REALLY like what u said sprbean
its exactly what it is...
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one of the proofs that God exists is... :

Imagine a moving ball... When you see it, you know that SMTG MADE IT MOVE. some1 must have kicked it, maybe wind moved it, etc... We know in fact that it had a reason to happend.

Now put a ball on the ground and dont touch it, dont let wind move it, and put it somewhere flat. Nothing will happen.

That is because you always need an Active principle for things to happen.
Look around you and see things in the city moving so dynamically.. its amazing, stop and think about all the things that made what u see move. If u see a car, think about the driver. see the driver, think about his whole body, then his brain, until u reach each molecule and chemical reaction that happens inside you. It will always have a reason to happen.
if something is on fire, then something must have happened to it. Always.

Now I am talking about philosophy (what is alot, ALOT larger than what we call Science), open ur mind!

all the time u think about the reason that made something happen, u have to go back in time a little bit. think... About the FIRST REASON EVER!!! The ACTIVE PRINCIPLE! think about the children's question "if god creates everything, than what creates god?" that sentece hides the ONLY TRUTH WE KNOW! The truth is: GOD EXISTS.
HE IS THE ACTIVE PRINCIPLE OF EVERYTHING. He is the only thing that didnt need a reason to "happen", what proves he is different.

I guess at least most people wont have trouble understanding that an Active Principle exists. The real trouble is: "How do u know its God?" Maybe it is something higher that Created God...

Now people open your minds even more. We DONT KNOW WHO GOD IS. We call god the highest entity. If someone comes to you and say "what if SOMETHING ELSE created God?"
THen you say: Well Then "SOMETHING ELSE" is GOD, and what you called 'god' is a lower entity.

Example:
We have numbers 1 and 2

Lets suppose I dont know that 2 exist. So I believe the highest thing is 1!!! 1 is god!

then ur sister in law(?) comes and says "What if 1 was created by smtg called 2"??

Conclusion: ur sister in law may be right about 2 creating one, but then 2 is GOD and 1 was just a lower entity.

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It does NOT MATTER if the ACTIVE PRINCIPLE is good or evil, looks like us or not, is in heaven or hell, if he even know we exist or if he is even a live been, if he even thinks, if he is even consient. This post shows that GOD EXISTS and no more details.

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